The Hidden Sleep Disorders Show

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Hosted by Dr. Vishal Saini, M.D., FAASM — board-certified sleep medicine physician, researcher, and Assistant Clinical Professor. Each episode unpacks the sleep disorders your doctor may have missed.

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narcolepsysleepiness~5 min listen

Sleep Paralysis to Cataplexy: A Deep Dive into Narcolepsy

Welcome back to the Hidden Sleep Disorder Show! In this episode, Dr. Vishal Saini shines a spotlight on narcolepsy, one of the most misunderstood sleep disorders. While popular media often portrays narcolepsy as people collapsing or dozing off mid-conversation, the reality for most patients is far more complex and nuanced. Dr. Vishal Saini debunks common myths, explores hidden symptoms like sleep paralysis, hallucinations, and persistent brain fog, and discusses why people often go undiagnosed for years. If you or someone you know struggles with unexplained daytime sleepiness or exhaustion, this episode offers valuable insights into the science, diagnosis, and evolving treatment options for narcolepsy. Tune in to uncover the truth behind this hidden sleep disorder and learn how awareness can change lives. Timestamps: 00:00 Discussing narcolepsy basics 05:10 Understanding narcolepsy misconceptions 07:15 Understanding cataplexy and narcolepsy 12:04 Identifying narcolepsy symptoms 14:51 Educating clinicians about narcolepsy 18:26 Discussing sleepiness and ADHD diagnosis 23:21 Conducting a nap study for narcolepsy 25:18 Testing for narcolepsy diagnosis 29:46 Managing narcolepsy with lifestyle changes 34:17 Early clinical trials excitement 35:03 Discussing narcolepsy and diagnosis challenges Quotes, Hooks, & Timestamps: "So the biggest misconception here is that somehow it has to be very dramatic, which is in 95% of the patients, that's not the case at all." — Dr. Vishal Saini [00:05:46 → 00:05:58] "If you're not an observant clinician, you could easily think, oh, this person's dealing with insomnia. And you keep trying sleeping pills or whatever, but it's not really helping them because they're super tired. And you really miss the diagnosis of narcolepsy for these patients." — Dr. Vishal Saini [00:12:47 → 00:13:03] "And I can't tell you how many patients I see and they all say yes to ADD adhd, but it's really the sleepiness that they're treating with the older stimulants that they use for their ADD ADHD medications, which by the way, we also use them or have to use them sometimes stimulant medications to keep people alert and awake, because we know that's what they also help with." — Dr. Vishal Saini [00:18:40 → 00:19:03] "We do have now replacement orexins that are being studied as we speak and we expect them to be commercially available on the market as soon as by the end of this year and multiple more in the pipeline that will be ready by next year or so." — Dr. Vishal Saini [00:20:50 → 00:21:07] "If you go into the study being sleep deprived, you can easily fool the test. So we make sure, in whatever ways we can, that when you go into the test that you've had plenty of sleep several days prior going into the sleep study, because otherwise we may end up mislabeling somebody with narcolepsy." — Dr. Vishal Saini [00:22:37 → 00:22:57] "But with narcolepsy patients, they go into REM sleep right away, within two, three minutes and they're right in REM sleep." — Dr. Vishal Saini [00:24:09 → 00:24:16] "But because it's a painful, very labor intensive test, most people don't really agree to go through that." — Dr. Vishal Saini [00:26:11 → 00:26:18] "So in our conversations with our patients, that's what we're focusing on, that, okay, what's the most burdensome symptom that they're dealing with? And then we start to tailor medications around that." — Dr. Vishal Saini [00:27:22 → 00:27:34] "There's one liquid medication called Zybave that is approved for narcolepsy that helps patients sleep harder, sleep deeper, and get more deep quality sleep, and in return helps them stay more alert and awake during the daytime." — Dr. Vishal Saini [00:28:38 → 00:28:54] "And that's extremely hard to just neutralize with the medications. So even after medications, that's one advice that we give our patients that, hey, use the strategic naps." — Dr. Vishal Saini [00:30:40 → 00:30:52] Dr. Vishal Saini - https://www.mwcsd.com/dr-vishal-saini/ Show Website - https://the-hidden-sleep-disorders-sho.beam.ly/ Podcast Producer - https://tophealth.care/ “Disclaimer: Informational only. Not medical advice. Consult your doctor for guidance.”

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#2
hypersomnianarcolepsy~6 min listen

Uncovering Hidden Sleep Disorders Why So Many Go Undiagnosed for Years

Welcome to another episode of the Hidden Sleep Disorders Show. Today, host and sleep specialist Dr. Saini will shed light on the surprisingly common reality that many sleep disorders go undiagnosed for years, even decades. He explores why so many people, from high-achieving professionals to everyday individuals, ignore chronic fatigue, poor sleep, or unexplained exhaustion, often mistaking these symptoms for depression, anxiety, or simply the stress of daily life. Together, they break down the most commonly overlooked sleep disorders, discuss the pitfalls of misdiagnosis, and look at how sleep studies can finally provide answers. If you’ve ever wondered whether your tiredness is more than “just life,” or you’re curious about the hidden world of sleep medicine, this episode is for you. Timestamps: 00:00 Decades of misdiagnosis and symptoms 06:26 Addressing overlooked sleep disorders 08:37 Types of sleep disorders discussed 13:14 Diagnosing idiopathic hypersomnia challenges 15:15 Understanding idiopathic medical terms 18:51 Home sleep test pros and cons 22:47 Daytime nap study process 27:38 Importance of Sleep Tests 30:17 Undiagnosed sleep disorders discussion Quotes, Hooks, & Timestamps: "We're gotten used to decades of ignoring the symptoms, decades of misleading diagnosis, decades of just waiting, decades of where I just keep blaming something else for explaining my symptoms." — Dr. Saini [00:02:40 → 00:02:58] "But generally, sleep disorders do not make it to that list when they're analyzing, when they're thinking. So we need to change that. And, you know, only way to do that is by educating the masses so they can talk about this." — Dr. Saini [00:07:13 → 00:07:27] "There's narcolepsy type 1, there's narcolepsy type 2, depending on your clinical presentation. And then there is idiopathic hypersomnia, which is a fancy way of saying that, hey, I don't really know why you have hypersomnia, which means excessive sleepiness. But even though we have it labeled that way, we actually have pretty set diagnostic criteria to diagnose someone with this condition." — Dr. Saini [00:08:49 → 00:09:16] "As a clinician, we have to be Extremely thorough in our evaluation and testing to come up with that. And that's what makes it challenging because if you're super busy or not paying attention or not listening to what your patient is telling you, then it can be easily missed or mislabeled." — Dr. Saini [00:13:58 → 00:14:19] "It used to be all located in the sleep lab or in the hospital, but now a lot of the testing has moved into patients home." — Dr. Saini [00:18:13 → 00:18:22] "For example, some of them can underestimate my sleep apnea and come back falsely negative. And we see in practice, sometimes what will happen is patient will do a home sleep test that comes back negative and then there is no follow through on that. There is no follow up testing to confirm that, hey, did we miss it? Was it true negative or was it a false negative test?" — Dr. Saini [00:19:41 → 00:20:04] "It's a much more holistic, much more detailed data capture for all the physiological signals that we're dealing with at nighttime. So that is the in lab sleep study that is focusing on ruling out sleep apnea. But it can also pick up, for example, if I'm sleeping and in my dream, I'm starting to act out on my dreams." — Dr. Saini [00:20:59 → 00:21:21] "So that is something you can only uncover when you have an in lab sleep study because home sleep tests will easily miss that." — Dr. Saini [00:21:39 → 00:21:47] "Not every sleep clinic is equipped to do that. So you have to do some research and see, okay, who are the people who are talking about it? Who are the people who are testing for it? Because otherwise, you know, the example I gave you, if I go to a sleep lab or sleep clinic that's not really focused on that, and all they're caring about is my sleep apnea, and if I don't have sleep apnea, then they're absolutely not the right fit for my condition, you know, so then I." — Dr. Saini [00:23:42 → 00:24:09] "We have patients where once we fix their insomnia, their anxiety was gone, they didn't have any more anxiety left cause they were sleeping so good." — Dr. Saini [00:28:55 → 00:29:04] Dr. Vishal Saini - https://www.mwcsd.com/dr-vishal-saini/ Show Website - https://the-hidden-sleep-disorders-sho.beam.ly/ Podcast Producer - https://tophealth.care/ “Disclaimer: Informational only. Not medical advice. Consult your doctor for guidance.”

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NarcolepsySleep apnea~6 min listen

Uncovering Hidden Sleep Disorders: Why You’re Exhausted Even After a Full Night’s Rest

Welcome to the Hidden Sleep Disorder show, where we shine a light on the often-overlooked medical conditions that lurk behind chronic fatigue, poor sleep, and unexplained exhaustion. In this episode, Dr. Vishal Saini explores why millions wake up tired every morning, even after what appears to be a full night’s rest. He unravels the complex science, diagnosis, and treatment of hidden sleep disorders that most people don’t even realize they have. From Dr. Saini´s journey into sleep medicine, inspired by eye-opening patient experiences, to personal stories of misdiagnosis and the surprising connections between sleep, mental health, and everyday symptoms, this conversation invites you to reevaluate what it means to be "well-rested." Whether you struggle with insomnia, suspect you might have sleep apnea, or just feel inexplicably tired, this episode is your guide to understanding the signs, symptoms, and crucial importance of truly restorative sleep. If you’ve ever wondered why sleep doesn't fix your exhaustion, tune in as we uncover the hidden world of sleep disorders and help you take the first step toward a more energetic and fulfilling life.

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Dr. Vishal Saini, M.D., FAASM

Research & Medical Director at MWCSD. Board-certified sleep medicine physician and FAASM. Assistant Clinical Professor dedicated to uncovering the sleep disorders that too often go undiagnosed.

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